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#1 08-07-09 4:39 am

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1 Chronicles 16:26 - "... but the LORD made the heavens

1 Chronicles 16:26 For all the gods of the nations are idols, but the LORD made the heavens.

Take a ride with your mind with E. Edward Zinke in the Review article, "Creation and the Certainty of the Second Coming."

http://www.adventistreview.com/issue.php?issue=200 9-1521&page=40

Take the first step of doubting the Creation story and doesn't all of our dignified beginning by a personal God come tumbling down. Jesus recognizes Noah with his words, and the very creation male and female by He and His Father. Was His visit to earth just part of God's evolution and a criss-cross with man's evolution. What does that do with the substitutionary death of Jesus for us, or was He just to help us in our evolutionary journey??

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#2 08-07-09 4:48 am

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Re: 1 Chronicles 16:26 - "... but the LORD made the heavens

Eph 3:7 I became a servant of this gospel by the gift of God's grace given me through the working of his power. 8Although I am less than the least of all God's people, this grace was given me: to preach to the Gentiles the unsearchable riches of Christ, 9and to make plain to everyone the administration of this mystery, which for ages past was kept hidden in God, who created all things.



What of Paul's claim if you doubt the Creation story as related in the Bible. You let your mind pick up the chance story of Evolution, not that of a Creator God and His Son's purpose of creating man and coming to save him.

(Message edited by Bob_2 on August 07, 2009)

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#3 08-07-09 4:52 am

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Re: 1 Chronicles 16:26 - "... but the LORD made the heavens

Read on with Zinke and he points out, either the Bible is true or:

   

The biblical account of humanity differs greatly from that offered by evolution. We are not sons and daughters of primates, but sons and daughters of God! Adam’s genealogy does not trace back to a primitive cell. He was the son of God (Luke 3:38). We are not created in the image of some beast, but the image and likeness of God Himself (Gen. 1:26-28; 5:1, 2).



It is a claim of faith, but if you do not claim it, chance evolution is what you are left with.

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#4 08-07-09 5:05 am

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Re: 1 Chronicles 16:26 - "... but the LORD made the heavens

The Bible links the historical accounts of Creation, the Flood, and the Second Coming. “Scoffers will come in the last days, walking according to their own lusts, and saying, ‘Where is the promise of His coming? For since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of creation.’ For this they willfully forget: that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of water and in the water, by which the world that then existed perished, being flooded with water. But the heavens and the earth which are now preserved by the same word, are reserved for fire until the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men” (2 Peter 3:3-7).

    Christ made that same connection: “But as the days of Noah were, so also will the coming of the Son of Man be. For as in the days before the flood, they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noah entered the ark, and did not know until the flood came and took them all away, so also will the coming of the Son of Man be” (Matt. 24:37-39). Thus Scripture uses the historical conditions of humanity at the time of Noah as an analogy to the times just before the coming of Christ. Furthermore, the same word that brought about Creation and the Flood will bring about the destruction at the Second Coming.

    Theistic evolution finds it necessary to reinterpret the biblical concept of the Second Coming and the new earth. If God did not break into history in Creation, then surely He will not do so in a literal, visible Second Coming. If He does not create by the word of His mouth, He will not re-create in the Resurrection. And if He did not originally create the Garden of Eden, He will not re-create the new earth. For the theistic evolutionist, eschatology is not a decisive entrance of God into history at the Second Coming. It is the continuing evolution of a better life, a process that humanity accelerates by bringing about a moral and just society through such activities as revolt, rebellion, redistribution of wealth, education, etc. Thank God, though, we can have hope in the future Second Coming because God is our Creator and Redeemer!

    The Integrity of Our Message

    Adventism will not be Adventism if it accepts theistic evolution. The active God who created by the word of His mouth, who communicated through the prophets, who lived among us, died in our place, was resurrected, and ascended to minister for us, who will return the second time to take us home with Himself, who will bring about the resurrection of the dead and the re-creation of the new earth, and who will finally destroy sin—we cannot worship such a God if He does not exist.

    Adventists do not worship a god who dragged his creatures through the slime of evolution, but the God of Creation, a personal God who desires to fellowship with us and to dwell among us. We worship Him because He created us. It is that act that distinguishes Him from the designer gods of this age.

    Christianity is a relationship with God and Jesus Christ. It is not an imaginary, contentless relationship, but one based upon knowledge of the “only true God” (John 17:3). If our relationship is with any other deity, it is idolatry. Whether in its Darwinian form that rejects the existence of God, or in its theistic manifestation that claims God as influencer of the evolutionary process, the theory of evolution denies the biblical doctrine of God. It builds another concept of divinity based upon science, history, and philosophy that denies the God who has revealed Himself in His Word. Relying upon human ability to discover “truth,” such approaches follow the same path Satan did. They set us up as independent of God, capable ourselves of defining or creating a god out of our own imagination.

    Evolutionary theory requires that we rewrite the history of God, and therefore redefine His nature. In so doing, it leads us to enter a relationship with a false god, an idol. When Christ appears the second time, He desires to return to a people who are waiting for Him, not for some “designer god.” He will come to a people who are like Him in character, not like our “designer gods” that are the creation of our own imagination. Christ wants a people who are not in the dark about who He is. Therefore, He is calling forth a people who will accept and proclaim the fullness of the biblical message—the everlasting gospel—part of which is “worship Him who made heaven and earth” (Rev. 14:7).



http://www.adventistreview.com/issue.ph … 21&page=40

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#5 08-07-09 5:37 am

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Re: 1 Chronicles 16:26 - "... but the LORD made the heavens

Then add the study of this Spectrum piece:

"Walking in the Light: Rejecting Antichrists"

http://www.spectrummagazine.org/article … ment-32072

Test your beliefs. It forces you to.

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